Vote for why you think it jumped
Exit...Stage Left (Brenda)
Exit...Stage Left (Brandon)
Graduation (High School)
I Do? (Brandon and Kelly)
Never Jumped
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I agree with those who have mentioned Andrea Zuckermann as the worst character on the show. She looked every bit her 35 years trying to play an 18 year old, and I always hated her face. She would do that fake smile while she almost crying - ALL THE TIME. It really bugged me. I hated all story lines that surrounded her.
All the guys annoyed me in different ways.
Somewhere after season 1, Brandon got this really self righteous, cold attitude that he dragged with him the rest of the series. I think when he became a big man on campus in colleg it really exploded. And why would he want to date Kelly, knowing she's been with his friends Steve and Dylan already? That is just something guys don't do.
Dylan - he was bad boy cool in the first couple of seasons, but around season 5 I got tired of his constant troubles. He's just a boring, one dimensional character who treated everyone around him bad - he didn't deserve any friends.
Steve - I know he was there for comic relief but the guy thought he was Mr. Everything with that cheesey permy curly hair and horrible clothes. I think he was best suited for Claire because she actually put him in his place.
David - He starts out as this geek who is hard to look at, and he morphs into a pretty hot dude, but somehow he just never quite fits in with the gang...he is almost dragged along by Donna who he cheats on so many times, and they break up, they make up almost to the point of a being completely ridiculous.
The show was better without Brenda - she was too much drama. But I'm not sure Valerie is much better - she's almost too mean, too much of a bad girl to be believable.
Overall, the show had its moments - I like it, I do watch the reruns, but almost every episode there is a clear jump.
All the guys annoyed me in different ways.
Somewhere after season 1, Brandon got this really self righteous, cold attitude that he dragged with him the rest of the series. I think when he became a big man on campus in colleg it really exploded. And why would he want to date Kelly, knowing she's been with his friends Steve and Dylan already? That is just something guys don't do.
Dylan - he was bad boy cool in the first couple of seasons, but around season 5 I got tired of his constant troubles. He's just a boring, one dimensional character who treated everyone around him bad - he didn't deserve any friends.
Steve - I know he was there for comic relief but the guy thought he was Mr. Everything with that cheesey permy curly hair and horrible clothes. I think he was best suited for Claire because she actually put him in his place.
David - He starts out as this geek who is hard to look at, and he morphs into a pretty hot dude, but somehow he just never quite fits in with the gang...he is almost dragged along by Donna who he cheats on so many times, and they break up, they make up almost to the point of a being completely ridiculous.
The show was better without Brenda - she was too much drama. But I'm not sure Valerie is much better - she's almost too mean, too much of a bad girl to be believable.
Overall, the show had its moments - I like it, I do watch the reruns, but almost every episode there is a clear jump.
Andrea Zuckerman was the most insufferable character ever! If I saw Carteris's whiny face today; I'd punch it. I kept hoping she would just go away. Or that her character would meet some sort of karmically designed superiority complex induced accident. No such luck. Or maybe just her deep fried rat's nest of hair would catch on fire a la Michael Jackson. Sigh; one can dream. And the fact that there is fugly Zuckerman spawn on 90210 the next gen is just unforgivable. Esp. since it's made me reconsider my pro life views.
I love how brandon absolutely refused to touch that.
I love how brandon absolutely refused to touch that.
for me, this show jumped the shark when Jennie Garth and Tori Spelling both cut their long, beautiful hair to a short, less attractive look ( especially Tori Spelling )
Is it just me but is Audrea the oldest looking 17 year old you ever seen? I was glad when she left in college she just didnt fit it. And another thing I remember David being one grade behind them so how could be in college with them?
Surely the moment it jumped the shark was when Scott shot himself. The advertising was preposterous--one of the gang will die. Then this nobody is written out! Who would have missed him?
dylan's theme music, played whenever he gets angry, was hilarious. there was also the dramatic guitar riff that played when anything bad happens on the show
One of the WORST shows in 90210 History was when Dylan underwent hypnosis and was in the wild west! SO SO SO bad! You could tell Luke Perry didn't want to do the show anymore by his acting. He was just like "Give me my paycheck!"
This show was so GOOD the first 3 years while they were in High School. It was ridiculous that they ALL happened to end up at California University- Andrea who got into Yale, Donna who had mega-bad SAT scores, and Steve who got horrible grades and was caught cheating in High School. Give me a break!
The show was so downhill once they went to College. Sweet, chubby, pale-faced, ugly/frumpy clothes, bushy-browed Brenda turned into a black-haired, pluck-eyebrowed, SKANKY outfits bitch Brenda. They should have ended the entire series when Brenda and Dylan had sex on his floor when Brenda tells Dylan she's leaving for London. Then it would have reunited these Sweethearts!!!!!
This show was so GOOD the first 3 years while they were in High School. It was ridiculous that they ALL happened to end up at California University- Andrea who got into Yale, Donna who had mega-bad SAT scores, and Steve who got horrible grades and was caught cheating in High School. Give me a break!
The show was so downhill once they went to College. Sweet, chubby, pale-faced, ugly/frumpy clothes, bushy-browed Brenda turned into a black-haired, pluck-eyebrowed, SKANKY outfits bitch Brenda. They should have ended the entire series when Brenda and Dylan had sex on his floor when Brenda tells Dylan she's leaving for London. Then it would have reunited these Sweethearts!!!!!
There's a lot of things I like about this show, and a lot of things I don't. For one, all the characters remain friends despite sometimes huge arguments that would tear most people apart (the Brenda/Dylan/Kelly drama). I find it hard to believe that this incestuous group could remain so intact between all the makeups and breakups.
Brandon got too cocky, I'm not quite sure when it happened but he was best in seasons 1 and 2.
Brenda got prettier in seasons 2-4 - in season 1 she just still chubby cheeks like a kid.
Both Andrea and David did not fit in with the group. Andrea was much too conservative and much too smart for them, and David was too geeky. Fortunately, they wrote Andrea out and I had to laugh every time she came back for visits because the group always pretended to just love her when it was clear from day 1 that she was the odd ball. David, magically, became good looking and suddenly he fit right in - it took some time but he got lucky.
Steve was too cornball. I find it hard to believe someone as sensible as Brandon would ever befriend a ditz like Steve.
Kelly went from ultra slut to ultra victim/martyr. I'm not sure which role she was more suited for but I liked her best in high school; she seemed more real.
Valerie was a cool character but almost too good for the series - she took the show from teen drama to major soap opera, but some of her feats seemed unbelievable.
Dylan's role was sweet in high school but got bloated and old after that - when he left the show the first time, he should've remained gone for when he came back as a special guest star - he was a shadow of his former self.
Donna was better as a secondary, rarely seen or heard character - she was good for background. When the storylines started encircling her, the show took a massive dump.
A lot of Brandon and Steve's girlfriends were annoying - Susan, Tracy, Claire, Janet, Hilary Swank, that blonde bimbo that was a gold digger and latched onto Steve...it was always the same storylines, just different gals.
All in all, I like the show and still watch the reruns today - but I can definitely see the jumps, more and more.
Brandon got too cocky, I'm not quite sure when it happened but he was best in seasons 1 and 2.
Brenda got prettier in seasons 2-4 - in season 1 she just still chubby cheeks like a kid.
Both Andrea and David did not fit in with the group. Andrea was much too conservative and much too smart for them, and David was too geeky. Fortunately, they wrote Andrea out and I had to laugh every time she came back for visits because the group always pretended to just love her when it was clear from day 1 that she was the odd ball. David, magically, became good looking and suddenly he fit right in - it took some time but he got lucky.
Steve was too cornball. I find it hard to believe someone as sensible as Brandon would ever befriend a ditz like Steve.
Kelly went from ultra slut to ultra victim/martyr. I'm not sure which role she was more suited for but I liked her best in high school; she seemed more real.
Valerie was a cool character but almost too good for the series - she took the show from teen drama to major soap opera, but some of her feats seemed unbelievable.
Dylan's role was sweet in high school but got bloated and old after that - when he left the show the first time, he should've remained gone for when he came back as a special guest star - he was a shadow of his former self.
Donna was better as a secondary, rarely seen or heard character - she was good for background. When the storylines started encircling her, the show took a massive dump.
A lot of Brandon and Steve's girlfriends were annoying - Susan, Tracy, Claire, Janet, Hilary Swank, that blonde bimbo that was a gold digger and latched onto Steve...it was always the same storylines, just different gals.
All in all, I like the show and still watch the reruns today - but I can definitely see the jumps, more and more.
I used to watch this with my kid sister back when it was on in its initial run. While she loved it, I hated it, because I didn't like how the girls were depicted as these boycrazy airheads who walked around in these skimpy outfits and only seemed to care about shopping while the male characters had much more depth. What was upsetting to me was this show was aimed at teenage and pre-teen girls hense giving girls this false sense of femininity and sexuality. Girls as young as 15 were sleeping around and dressing like Madonna. It made me sick. And it still makes me sick to this day to see shows like "Gossip Girl", "One Tree Hill" and "90210" being so popular because I do not like the depiction of girls in these shows.
I've been going through some of these old posts and there have been some pretty funny ones.
One poster compared Donna to Admiral Ackbar. Another stated that Steve and Brandon wind up at the same job despite Steve cheating his way through everything (Sending a great message to kids). Another poster stated that we all must have been hypnotized into watching the show (I'd have to agree).
My father went through a weird stage when I was younger and ended up banning the T.V. (in the early 90's). Eventually we got N.B.C. back but 90210 and Fox was banned. Thus, I had to catch up on 90210 through D.V.D.s. And I can say the only thing worse than 90210 is dated 90210 (Color Me Bad etc.) I've only watched until season 5, but their is pretty to rant about up until that point. Most shows are crap and you stop watching but, this one I just kept watching...Maybe it was watching the train wreck thing... I don't know.
I'd have to agree that the show jumped when Dillan came back with Kelly and stayed with her, a good summer fling, but it jumped when that happened.
Season 4 (after graduation) we begin to see the end.
1st Brenda almost marries Joe Millionare. Then the group tries to stop her by basically boarding a fake plane and going to the next room in the studio.
2nd Dillan gets a sister. She eventually talks to him about her period (great television).
3rd Donna where's a bikini.
4th David raps something about precious to you...my ears start to bleed.
5th Steve competes with the missing link for a girl.
6th We have to watch Jason/Brandon's ego literally being stroked (the biggest this side of Shatner). Honestly if I wanted to watch two girls stroke each leg of a guy under a table, I'd subscribe to an adult site. Also we have to watch Brandon basically pummel to guys twice his size (yeah O.K.)
At least they gave Brenda a good send off.
Season 5
1st Andrea's baby storyline..very bad television..it was obvious they didn't know what to do with her character (or why they had her on in the first place). They did the right thing by letting her go.
2nd Nat says "Rave on"...its all over by then.
3rd I'm actually pretty conservative, but I think they made that lesbian out to be a complete psycho. They also had Kelly be in a fire and cult within a few episodes of each other.
4th Brandon gets elected V.P. all of the posters have him in it with the other guy. When he gets elected, you never see him with a V.P.
At least Val made the series interesting (even though she slept with the entire cast).
This is only half of the series, from what I've been reading I'm sure their is a lot more. Maybe my Dad was just trying to keep me away from bad television.
One poster compared Donna to Admiral Ackbar. Another stated that Steve and Brandon wind up at the same job despite Steve cheating his way through everything (Sending a great message to kids). Another poster stated that we all must have been hypnotized into watching the show (I'd have to agree).
My father went through a weird stage when I was younger and ended up banning the T.V. (in the early 90's). Eventually we got N.B.C. back but 90210 and Fox was banned. Thus, I had to catch up on 90210 through D.V.D.s. And I can say the only thing worse than 90210 is dated 90210 (Color Me Bad etc.) I've only watched until season 5, but their is pretty to rant about up until that point. Most shows are crap and you stop watching but, this one I just kept watching...Maybe it was watching the train wreck thing... I don't know.
I'd have to agree that the show jumped when Dillan came back with Kelly and stayed with her, a good summer fling, but it jumped when that happened.
Season 4 (after graduation) we begin to see the end.
1st Brenda almost marries Joe Millionare. Then the group tries to stop her by basically boarding a fake plane and going to the next room in the studio.
2nd Dillan gets a sister. She eventually talks to him about her period (great television).
3rd Donna where's a bikini.
4th David raps something about precious to you...my ears start to bleed.
5th Steve competes with the missing link for a girl.
6th We have to watch Jason/Brandon's ego literally being stroked (the biggest this side of Shatner). Honestly if I wanted to watch two girls stroke each leg of a guy under a table, I'd subscribe to an adult site. Also we have to watch Brandon basically pummel to guys twice his size (yeah O.K.)
At least they gave Brenda a good send off.
Season 5
1st Andrea's baby storyline..very bad television..it was obvious they didn't know what to do with her character (or why they had her on in the first place). They did the right thing by letting her go.
2nd Nat says "Rave on"...its all over by then.
3rd I'm actually pretty conservative, but I think they made that lesbian out to be a complete psycho. They also had Kelly be in a fire and cult within a few episodes of each other.
4th Brandon gets elected V.P. all of the posters have him in it with the other guy. When he gets elected, you never see him with a V.P.
At least Val made the series interesting (even though she slept with the entire cast).
This is only half of the series, from what I've been reading I'm sure their is a lot more. Maybe my Dad was just trying to keep me away from bad television.
I think any episode with Andrea in it was a guaranteed bad one. I could not stand her character, especially knowing how old she was. She did not fit in with the group whatsoever and it was clearly obvious time and time again. For Steve's 21st birthday party on the Queen Mary ship, when Andrea shows up as a surprise, she looks like a 45 year old woman with her short hair cut. Everyone feigns smiles and hugs her, like she was the most adored person - but we all know she was only close to Brandon.
I used to like Valerie's roll on the show but she was nothing more then a troublemaker - and her "fights" with Kelly got old fast. That two women of their ages would bicker so constantly like that is almost unreal to me. They are much too old for that sort of thing - either resolve it or one of them should've been cast out early. Nobody would've put up with that drama from someone else for that long.
I found Donna's character extremely annoying. But at least in the beginning of the series, when she barely had a roll and her breasts were natural and untouched - she looked 100 times better then as the storylines progressed. I can't stand that little laugh/snort she does, and I find it hard to believe that she and Kelly can afford that beach front apartment while in college and not working.
Furthermore, Brandon went from being this all around nice guy to a real jerk. The way he treated Susan and every girl after her was a clear sign that he thought he was better then everyone. He also seemed to lose any feelings he may have had and was frequently seen with a harsh tone and attitude. I think the season 1 Brandon was much better.
Episodes that don't contain Dylan are by far the best ones! His dramatic scenes, lifestyle and constant depression give me a headache. His character was so overdone, it makes me laugh. A guy like him would've committed suicide in high school.
The best seasons were 1, 4, 5, 6, and 7. After 7 things went downhill quite quickly.
I used to like Valerie's roll on the show but she was nothing more then a troublemaker - and her "fights" with Kelly got old fast. That two women of their ages would bicker so constantly like that is almost unreal to me. They are much too old for that sort of thing - either resolve it or one of them should've been cast out early. Nobody would've put up with that drama from someone else for that long.
I found Donna's character extremely annoying. But at least in the beginning of the series, when she barely had a roll and her breasts were natural and untouched - she looked 100 times better then as the storylines progressed. I can't stand that little laugh/snort she does, and I find it hard to believe that she and Kelly can afford that beach front apartment while in college and not working.
Furthermore, Brandon went from being this all around nice guy to a real jerk. The way he treated Susan and every girl after her was a clear sign that he thought he was better then everyone. He also seemed to lose any feelings he may have had and was frequently seen with a harsh tone and attitude. I think the season 1 Brandon was much better.
Episodes that don't contain Dylan are by far the best ones! His dramatic scenes, lifestyle and constant depression give me a headache. His character was so overdone, it makes me laugh. A guy like him would've committed suicide in high school.
The best seasons were 1, 4, 5, 6, and 7. After 7 things went downhill quite quickly.
I'm watching the reruns and it's back to season 1. I realize now just how good this season was, and the writers were much more talented.
Things started to jump when Dylan and Kelly hooked up on Brenda's trip to Paris with Donna. It was then that the show became a soap opera. Donna started to get more face time and we knew something was going to have to give as far as Dylan now wanting to be with Kelly. The true chemistry between Dylan and Brenda can never be matched - the only other woman who looked good by Dylan's side was Toni Marchette, but the premise that she was the daughter of the mobster who killed Dylan's father was silly.
I think David's and Steve's characters hurt the show equally. David went for a total dork to managing to graduate with a year early...then he got really good looking but he was, for the most part, a total jerk - cheating on Donna and dating around constantly. The fact that he dated vixens Valerie and Gina made him seem desperate.
The best seasons were 1-4...after high school the show began to fade and eventually once Valerie and Brandon left, and Dylan returned, as well as a cast of bumbling morons (Matt, Noah, Gina) who served no purpose but to simply repise the roles of Brandon, Dylan and Brenda/Valerie - the show tanked big time.
Worst seasons were 7-10.
Things started to jump when Dylan and Kelly hooked up on Brenda's trip to Paris with Donna. It was then that the show became a soap opera. Donna started to get more face time and we knew something was going to have to give as far as Dylan now wanting to be with Kelly. The true chemistry between Dylan and Brenda can never be matched - the only other woman who looked good by Dylan's side was Toni Marchette, but the premise that she was the daughter of the mobster who killed Dylan's father was silly.
I think David's and Steve's characters hurt the show equally. David went for a total dork to managing to graduate with a year early...then he got really good looking but he was, for the most part, a total jerk - cheating on Donna and dating around constantly. The fact that he dated vixens Valerie and Gina made him seem desperate.
The best seasons were 1-4...after high school the show began to fade and eventually once Valerie and Brandon left, and Dylan returned, as well as a cast of bumbling morons (Matt, Noah, Gina) who served no purpose but to simply repise the roles of Brandon, Dylan and Brenda/Valerie - the show tanked big time.
Worst seasons were 7-10.
So.....is anyone going to watch the new 90210. I just hope it's as good as the original.
From the previews it looks okay but now everything seems like a rip off of 90210. Gossip Girl,The Hills,The OC,Laguna Beach etc. I'm happy that Shannen agreed to be part of it and I'm glad that Tori Spelling (Donna) will not. Apparently there was some friction between Shannen and Tori, I guess somethings never change. Anyway, sorry for getting off topic.
From the previews it looks okay but now everything seems like a rip off of 90210. Gossip Girl,The Hills,The OC,Laguna Beach etc. I'm happy that Shannen agreed to be part of it and I'm glad that Tori Spelling (Donna) will not. Apparently there was some friction between Shannen and Tori, I guess somethings never change. Anyway, sorry for getting off topic.
I FEEL THE SHOW JUMPED WHEN DYLAN CHOSE KELLY GARTH AND PERRY DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME CHEMISTRY AS DOHERTY AND PERRY. BRENDA AND DYLAN WERE THE COUPLE OF THE SHOW AND GAVE IT HEART. THEY HAD A TRUE LOVE AS WHERE I ALWAYS FOUND DYLAN AND KELLY SO COLD TOGETHER AND JUST ABOUT HAVING SEX. AND IT SICKENED ME HOW THEY TRIED TO TURN KELLY INTO BRENDA GIVING HER ALL THESE MORALS ALL OF A SUDDEN. I ALSO HATED HOW THE GANG JUST ACCEPTED DYLAN AND KELLY TOGETHER LIKE THAT. HERE'S HOW MY COUPLING FOR THE ORIGINAL CAST WOULD GO
BRENDA/DYLAN
BRANDON/KELLY
DAVID DONNA
STEVE ANDREA= I THOUGHT THESE TWO WERE SUCH OPPOSITES THAT HAD GREAT CHEMISTRY THAT WAS NEVER USED PROPERLY THEY COULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT COUPLE.
THE VALERIE YEARS/ WHILE VAL WAS A GREAT FUN CHARACTER TO WATCH SHE CHANGED THE DYNAMIC OF THE SHOW AND AFTER SHE CAME ON ALL THE STORYS STARTED BEING FAR FETCHED AND CRAZY.
EVENTHOUGH KELLY AND DYLAN MADE ME ANGRY
I THOUGHT ALL THE BRANDON KELLY STUFF WAS BORING THEY SHOULD HAVE ALSO PUT HER WITH STEVE WHO ALWAYS LOVED HER.
ALL OF STEVES OUTSIDE THE GROUP GIRLFRIENDS ALWAYS SUCKED FOR ME AS WELL I HATED THAT THEY WOULD NEVER LET STEVE DATE ANYONE IN THE GROUP AND THAT WAS WHY I ALWAYS HATED HIS PLOTLINES CAUSE THEY INVOLVED ALL THOSE STUPID BORING BITCHES LIKE CELESTE, CLAIRE, AND JANET WHO DIDN'T FIT IN WITH THE GANG.
MY LEAST FAVE CHARACTER GO LIKE THIS
CLAIRE= ANNOYING BITCH I HATED HER OUTFITS AND THE WAY SHE TREATED DAVID AND STEVE I DON;T KNOW WHY SHE STAYED ON AS LONG AS SHE DID.
JOE BRADLEY THE QUARTERBACK= I FOUND HIM SO LAME RAY PRUIT WAS A MUCH BETTER MATCH FOR DONNA THEY HAD CHEMISTRY EVENTHOUGH HE BEAT HER AND WAS CRAZY GREEN AND SPELLING WERE BORING TOGETHER DURING THE COLLEGE YEARS IN HIGH SCHOOL THEY WERE CUTE.
GINA= DISGUSTING ALL AROUND I HATED HER NOSTRILS FLARING AND WHY DID DYLAN DATE HER AND ONLY **** VALERIE MADE NO SENCE TO ME
MATT= BORING ASS
NOAH= WORST ACTING IN 90210 HISTORY
ELLEN= WHY THE **** WAS SHE IN THE FINALE SO MUCH
AND LASTLY WHY DID THEY HAVE MISS TEASLEY AT DONNAS BRIDAL PARTY STUPID!!!!!!!!
BRENDA/DYLAN
BRANDON/KELLY
DAVID DONNA
STEVE ANDREA= I THOUGHT THESE TWO WERE SUCH OPPOSITES THAT HAD GREAT CHEMISTRY THAT WAS NEVER USED PROPERLY THEY COULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT COUPLE.
THE VALERIE YEARS/ WHILE VAL WAS A GREAT FUN CHARACTER TO WATCH SHE CHANGED THE DYNAMIC OF THE SHOW AND AFTER SHE CAME ON ALL THE STORYS STARTED BEING FAR FETCHED AND CRAZY.
EVENTHOUGH KELLY AND DYLAN MADE ME ANGRY
I THOUGHT ALL THE BRANDON KELLY STUFF WAS BORING THEY SHOULD HAVE ALSO PUT HER WITH STEVE WHO ALWAYS LOVED HER.
ALL OF STEVES OUTSIDE THE GROUP GIRLFRIENDS ALWAYS SUCKED FOR ME AS WELL I HATED THAT THEY WOULD NEVER LET STEVE DATE ANYONE IN THE GROUP AND THAT WAS WHY I ALWAYS HATED HIS PLOTLINES CAUSE THEY INVOLVED ALL THOSE STUPID BORING BITCHES LIKE CELESTE, CLAIRE, AND JANET WHO DIDN'T FIT IN WITH THE GANG.
MY LEAST FAVE CHARACTER GO LIKE THIS
CLAIRE= ANNOYING BITCH I HATED HER OUTFITS AND THE WAY SHE TREATED DAVID AND STEVE I DON;T KNOW WHY SHE STAYED ON AS LONG AS SHE DID.
JOE BRADLEY THE QUARTERBACK= I FOUND HIM SO LAME RAY PRUIT WAS A MUCH BETTER MATCH FOR DONNA THEY HAD CHEMISTRY EVENTHOUGH HE BEAT HER AND WAS CRAZY GREEN AND SPELLING WERE BORING TOGETHER DURING THE COLLEGE YEARS IN HIGH SCHOOL THEY WERE CUTE.
GINA= DISGUSTING ALL AROUND I HATED HER NOSTRILS FLARING AND WHY DID DYLAN DATE HER AND ONLY **** VALERIE MADE NO SENCE TO ME
MATT= BORING ASS
NOAH= WORST ACTING IN 90210 HISTORY
ELLEN= WHY THE **** WAS SHE IN THE FINALE SO MUCH
AND LASTLY WHY DID THEY HAVE MISS TEASLEY AT DONNAS BRIDAL PARTY STUPID!!!!!!!!
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