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This show, jumped?! My ASS!!
jumped when chef died. DUUUUUHHHHH!!!
SP can be very funny but I can't think of a show that’s up its own ass more at the moment. Think about it. The endless preaching, the 'our show is better than yours' attitude, being offensive for the sack of being offensive.

But what annoys me the most are those idiots who hang on SP's every word. You know, those who now think Mormonism and Scientology are stupid because SP said they were. And those who now think Family Guy is sh*t because of 'Cartoon Wars'. Funny that, because most of them liked Family Guy.
season 12 - there was hardly any group-trashing in that season compared to normal.

Now THAT...was a miracle.
Not necessarily: just look at season 12 - there was hardly any group-trashing in that season compared to normal. Even the episode 'About Last Night...', which was all about the American election, didn't have an ounce of politics in it. Anyway, even when they are offending groups I don't necessarily find it predictable since they always seem to come up with new and interesting ways of carrying it out!
South Park HAS gotten predictable...
you just KNOW they're going to go find a group, organization, ethnicity, relgion, etc. they haven't offended yet and do their best to offend them. If they can't find one, they'll settle for "re-offending" someone or something they already trashed.
The genius of South Park is that Matt and Trey aren't afraid to reinvent it completely whenever the style of the show becomes tiresome. By doing this, they definitely lose some viewers who prefer the 'old' format but they are almost guaranteed to gain viewers too. Does anyone really think the show would have lasted 12 seasons if it was purely the fart jokes and profanity of the first few seasons, or purely political satire or movie parodies? Of course not, the show has survived by remaining fresh and original. In my opinion, South Park will have jumped only when it starts to follow a formula and becomes predictable.
it hasnt jumped the shark yet, but you can feel it starting to decline it relies too much on violence and shock value, (not to say that they arent good in moderation)
Well, South Park is one of the best shows out there along with being cleverly and (sometimes) subtly written in an age of not-so-subtle humour. It has maintained itself effectively for a good amount of time. Though I have not seen the earlier seasons (Australian), what I will say is that even if I do find them awful that South Park has always seemed to be able to rebound itself after having a string of episodes that are not up to scratch.

Season by season;
1-Funny, like little else at the moment. Sort of the kids show not for kids. Primitive and sometimes poor by today's standards.
2-Still very good.
3-Some funny moments, but seeming to run dry.
4-Brilliant, it has come back and is starting to not take cheap laughs.
5-Still brilliant, now Cartman is officially the character that makes you pay attention to him.
6-Some funny episodes, but some iffy ones. Mixed about Kenny's absense.
7-At its (so far) peak.. same with
8-They are now offending in a smart way.
9-Less all-out jokes, but there are some gems amongst a few less watchable.
10-This is when I thought South Park was doomed. Killing off Chef, another episode not containing main characters and the Al Gore one were all pretty bad in my opinion. But then there were the great ones in the second half including the World of Warcraft episode (which is a stand out in comedy all up).
11-Haven't seen every one, but what I have is actually funny.
12-Can not comment.

So, overall the balance is in favour. Especially considering that most shows tend to jump within 5 years and it has taken over twice as long to do so.
for me it jumped awhile ago when it was all about pop culture references as show themes, however i do enjoy watching the early reruns late saturday night. when south park started it was absolute genius pure and simple. i never laughed so hard in my life then when cartman sang "kyle's mom is a bitch, bitch, bitch"
It more or less jumped the shark at "The Passion Of The Jew". From there, the show became all about Pop Culture and less about the kids, whereas before the plots were very interesting and moreorless original with Pop Culture references used as a secondary plot device.

The show continued to be funny for a long time but the overall quality was beginning to decrease ever so gradually. Eventually, it was very sporadic and episodes began to lose their replay value in comparison to episodes of old.

Without a doubt, the best seasons were 4 and 5.
South Park has officially jumped with the Guinea Pig episode.
-]. I don't think South Park's jumped the shark but i will be honest, I don't think the last half of Season12 has had that many funny episodes I feel the first half was phonomenal, so I hope they'll keep bringing more brilliant ones .[-
They went from making good shows and being satirical to bashing everything under the sun and trying to be as offensive as possible until they get cancelled. When they decided to be "brave" and take on Scientology, I can imagine the mother of all self-congratulations they were giving themselves:
"OH, yeah! We bashed Scientology! High-five! W00t! We rule! Take THAT, Travolta! In your face, Tom Cruise! Hurray for us!"
I'll admit that it was a funny episode (I was laughing my head off at the Xenu scenes), but the South Park creators are beginning to think that the moment they put a single drop of ink onto the script, they have struck gold. They went so far that they lost Isaac Hayes, who had no problem staying with a show that attacked religions...until HIS was put under an offensive light. Bash Christianity? OK. Bash Judaism? Sure, no problem. Bash Islam? Fine. Bash Scientology? What?! I quit!

They tried to justify their choice to trash scientology by telling Hayes, if they didn't bash scientology they would be belittling everything they bashed so far. Did it occur to them that if they were REALLY concerned about belittling something, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BASHED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE? Of course not. They don't care who gets offended. They were pulling an excuse out of you-know-where as to why they should bash Scientology.

Free tip to all you who say South Park bashing pop culture is satirical...not necessarily. Most of the time (now especially), it's just plain old bashing.

BTW, Isaac will be missed.
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South Park
First Show 1997
Slot Time 10 pm
Last Show
Slot Day Wednesday
Genre Cartoon
Network Comedy Central
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